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Articles for deletion 07 Jun 2024 – Cameron Guarino (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Namiba (t · c); see discussion (4 participants) 02 Jun 2024 – Mark Trueblood (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by JFHJr (t · c); see discussion (1 participant; relisted) 19 May 2024 – List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Cocobb8 (t · c); see discussion (10 participants; relisted) Categories for discussion 06 Jun 2024 – Category:Battles of the War of 1812 in Connecticut (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by Nederlandse Leeuw (t · c); see discussion 26 Apr 2024 – Category:Natural history of Connecticut (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by Marcocapelle (t · c); see discussion Redirects for discussion 07 Jun 2024 – Margrit Mary Emily Hyra (talk · edit · hist) →Meg Ryan was RfDed by Mwwv (t · c); see discussion 07 Jun 2024 – Margrit Hyra (talk · edit · hist) →Meg Ryan was RfDed by Mwwv (t · c); see discussion 07 Jun 2024 – Margrit Mary Hyra (talk · edit · hist) →Meg Ryan was RfDed by Mwwv (t · c); see discussion 07 Jun 2024 – Margrit Emily Hyra (talk · edit · hist) →Meg Ryan was RfDed by Mwwv (t · c); see discussion 07 Jun 2024 – Margrit Emily Mary Hyra (talk · edit · hist) →Meg Ryan was RfDed by Mwwv (t · c); see discussion Featured article candidates 06 Jun 2024 – Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie (talk · edit · hist) was FA nominated by SafariScribe (t · c); see discussion Good article nominees 06 May 2024 – Battle of the Frogs (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by Gobonobo (t · c); see discussion 16 Feb 2024 – Edith Roosevelt (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by Thebiguglyalien (t · c); see discussion Requested moves 09 Jun 2024 – Fairfield Metro station (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Fairfield–Black Rock station by FlushingLocal (t · c); see discussion 28 May 2024 – Audubon Sharon (talk · edit · hist) move request to Sharon Audubon Center by 162.213.133.143 (t · c) was moved to Sharon Audubon Center (talk · edit · hist) by SafariScribe (t · c) on 04 Jun 2024; see discussion Articles for creation 13 May 2024 – Draft:1756 Connecticut Census (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by Yfkjgkjgk (t · c) 30 Apr 2024 – Draft:Silas Bronson (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by Slgrandson (t · c) 24 Apr 2024 – Draft:Sneako (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by Sirdog (t · c) 01 Mar 2024 – Draft:Marquand and Co. (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by Southport1639 (t · c)

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Connecticut Cameron Guarino Cameron Guarino (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) The same article was deleted at Cam Guarino by User:Kuru. I tagged this article for speedy deletion but it was declined by User:GB fan. User:Namiba 02:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Baseball and Maine. User:Namiba 02:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Germany, Connecticut, and Washington, D.C.. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC) Note: The article at Cam Guarino was created by a check-user verified paid editing sock evading a block on another account. I've added 'Johnson Abigail' to an existing follow-up. Sam Kuru (talk) 11:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC) I have blocked the article's author, Johnson Abigail, as a sock. GB fan - I don't mind allowing this discussion to play out, but I believe that a G5 speedy would now be within policy, and more expedient. You declined the original speedy tag - do you objections to deletion at this point? Girth Summit (blether) 14:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC) I don't have any objections. At the time I declined, there was no investigation of any kind I could point to. There wasn't even a sock puppet identified that was pointed to. ~ GB fan 15:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC) Delete and no objection to speedy via G5. Definitely not a notable subject. Season with WP:SALT. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC) Mark Trueblood Mark Trueblood (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCIENTIST. His singular discovery is not a notable event, just noteworthy (in the list where it appears). There's just not enough in unrelated third-party reliable sources about him to make an encyclopedic biography. JFHJr (㊟) 04:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Astronomy, Engineering, Switzerland, Arizona, and Connecticut. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC) List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Most likely fails WP:NLIST, consists of 60% red links. WP:NOTDIRECTORY also applies, and I didn't find WP:RS describing this list besides third-party directories. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 13:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Collapsed list of notified projects for AFD readability Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. 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CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Vermont-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of West Virginia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wyoming-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Comment The links I clicked on had no references at all, or none that would count as reliable sources. Didn't check all of them. Dream Focus 19:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Delete. Most of the listed clubs are local organizations which would be unlikely to satisfy the notability criteria of WP:ORG. Hence, this looks mostly like a directory, which Wikipedia isn't. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC) Speedy keep. This list is self-defining, and does not require extensive documentation. So far around twenty entries are individually notable, and the reasons suggested for deletion are not persuasive: 1) the number of redlinks is irrelevant; there is potential for expansion, and the list would be perfectly valid if the items were not linked, as long as it's possible to verify the existence of items that don't have their own articles; for this, third-party directories are fine. That said, some effort to document them is necessary, but fixing that is part of the normal editing process, not a valid reason for deletion. There is no deadline for locating sources. 2) none of the criteria of the cited WP:NOTDIRECTORY apply; this seems to be one of those policies that people cite because it sounds like it would apply, apparently without bothering to read and understand it. Specifically: this is not a "simple listing without contextual information"; the context is clearly given. It is not a list or repository of loosely associated topics; the items on the list are all closely connected by subject matter. It is not a cross-categorization. It has nothing to do with genealogy. It is not a program guide. It is not a business resource. WP:NOTDIRECTORY is about collections of information that have no encyclopedic value for readers; this list clearly has value. "This list is full of redlinks and doesn't have enough sources" is not a valid rationale for deletion. It's a reason to improve the list. P Aculeius (talk) 13:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC) P Aculeius, those are all very good points, thanks for pointing them out. However, you have not addressed how this list meets WP:NLIST, do you think you could explain how it would to justify a speedy keep, as the fact that the entries themselves are notable does not guaranty the list itself being notable? Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Even if hypothetically NLIST was not met (which I believe it is), WP:LISTPURP suggests that there would still be other grounds to keep. As prodder and nom, you have not shown any evidence of having demonstrated WP:BEFORE due diligence. The plethora of Google results for searches like "stamp clubs in America" suggests that this was not done. It isn’t really the most GF behavior to simply, since the burden of proof generally lies with the “keep” side once process has begun, make a prod or AfD nomination without actually determining if there’s a prima facie case for a notability or verifiability challenge. Sorry for the sharpness, but sometimes it’s necessary. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 07:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC) Strong keep as deprodder. In my view it meets WP:LISTPURP and WP:NLIST and I feel this is a commonsensical call. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 07:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC) delete I'm just not seeing this. The NY society's building is historic, but when you look at sources about these places, even the few with articles really don't seem notable. And anyway, what are the sources for this list? I'm looking at the listing from Linn's Stamp News, and it's far more complete and is up-to-date; it's also clear that most of the listings would never garner an article. I don't see the point of duplicating a not-very-useful subset of thei info (just the names), and once we go past that, we're in WP:NOTDIRECTORY territory. Mangoe (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC) Keep per WP:BEFORE - while stamp collecting is not the huge hobby it was a couple of decades ago, there is a huge literature on such clubs. Bearian (talk) 16:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Still no consensus. "There is a huge literature on such clubs"....it would help, of course, if examples were provided. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC) Comment: this is a list article relating to a notable hobby (stamp collecting) and with notable members (stamp clubs)—although arguably the latter is not a requirement for a list topic; you could have a list article even if none of its members are individually notable. It is not necessary to find a reliable source that says, "the following is a list of stamp clubs in the United States", but any source that does something along those lines may be cited, even if it is A) a directory—Wikipedia is not a directory; that doesn't mean that directories cannot be used as sources—or B) it only lists some of the clubs mentioned in this list. It is unnecessary to cite a source to say that a club whose name identifies what it is is a stamp club. At most, individual items that are identifiable as stamp clubs by their name just need a source to show that they exist (or did at one point), and for that purpose a directory is fine. Even this is unnecessary for items that link to articles about notable clubs, which are documented in the linked articles. Satisfying these requirements should be exceptionally easy... P Aculeius (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC) I've now cited as many of the entries as I could find at least a directory or event listing for in general philatelic literature. And to repeat, WP:DIRECTORY does not apply here; it is well-established that items that are not individually notable may be combined into list articles. Stamp collecting is clearly a notable topic, and as mentioned above there is indeed considerable literature on the subject, including stamp collecting societies, their history, membership, and publications. I have cited a number of examples to verify the stamp clubs listed; there was of course much more activity and many more publications in the early twentieth century, when social clubs and their publications were a staple of American life. Most of this body of literature is not freely-accessible online, but enough is available in previews and snippet views on Google Books to verify the existence of most of the stamp clubs mentioned, along with their location and some other details—and for the purposes of this article, which is merely a list of philatelic societies in the United States, that is sufficient to warrant their inclusion. Many more could be added if the literature on the subject were easier to access, or someone spent more than a couple of days poring over such periodicals at the library. P Aculeius (talk) 04:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)