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Azerbaijan

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I want to see if article has problems before can make it good article status, thank you very much. ITABRIZ (talk) 21:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any problem with rating it as a good article. A little work could make it a featured article. Zitterbewegung ^Talk 18:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I just deleted a duplicate peer review for this article, opened by a different nominator. The text left was as follows:

I've listed this article for peer review because we would like to take it to FAC in the near future. We'd rather deal with any doubts, questions, errors, or omissions here than at FAC, so additional feedback and recommendations are welcome.

Thanks, Neftchi (talk) 21:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: As requested, here are some suggestions for improvement. I think this needs a fair amount of work before it would be ready for FAC. Here are some suggestions for getting it there.

• A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are several country FAs at Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Geography_and_places - I note Australia, Cameroon and Canada (among others) are all FAs and may be useful models
• One of the biggest problems this needs to address before FAC is a lack of references in places - the are "citation needed" tags and as one example the last two sentences of the first paragraph in the Antiquity section and the whole second paragraph have no refs. There are also no refs in the whole last paragraph of Restoration of independence. My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref.
• Many of the internet refs are just links. Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. {{cite web}} and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
• Not sure if the refs used all meet WP:RS - for example is the Encyclopaedia Britannica Online: History of Azerbaijan [5]. really the best possible ref for history here? In general encyclopedias are not favored refs.
• The other major problem this would have at FAC in its current state is the language - the hardest of the FA criteria for most articles to meet is a professional level of English. Examples follow
• One fairly easy thing to fix is the large number of short (one or two sentence) paragraphs - to improve the article's flow these should be combined with others or perhaps expanded wherever expanded
• For example the first sentence of the History section is The earliest evidence of human settlement in the territory of Azerbaijan dates to the late Stone Age and is related to the Guruchay culture of the Azykh Cave, where archeological evidences promoted the inclusion of Azerbaijan into the map of the ascent man sites of Europe.[18] "acent man sites of Europe" is not grammatical and I am frankly not sure what it means. Could it be something like The earliest evidence of human settlement in Azerbaijan dates to the late Stone Age and is related to the Guruchay culture of the Azykh Cave. not sure how to rewrite the rest as I am not sure of its meaning
• Per WP:MOS#Images, images should generally be set to thumb width to allow reader preferences to take over. For portrait format images, "upright" can be used to make the image narrower.
• Watch overlinking - Baku is linked about 6 times in the article, for example
• I checked only one image File:Transheya.jpg and it is Fair Use, but needs a fair use rationale to be included here - see WP:FAIRUSE. I also doubt that it meets the criteria for inclusion here under WP:NFCC

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

• I think this article needs more improvement, such as addition of tourism section and etc.--NovaSkola (talk) 01:26, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Redtigerxyz's comments

• The article needs a map in "Administrative divisions", depicting the divisions
• The article needs reorganization of images, in many sections (like Antiquity,Middle Ages etc.

) the text is sandwiched between images. The image in Fauna shows no Fauna, but snow and ice.

• I doubt the license of File:Independence1990.jpg, it appears to a scan of a newspaper from the texture of the image.
• Protection is a vague title. Rename. "Protection" of what?
• IMO, History needs to shortened. There is too much detail in the last three sub-sections of History. They are clubbed together something like "Modern Era"
• Apart from the other tags, stats and figures like dates and things like "making Azerbaijan the first Muslim nation to grant women equal political rights with men." need citations--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)