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Grammar in WA[edit]
Freemason's Hall (Toodyay) must be a misspelling, because the apostrophe should come after the plural form, but it is spelt that way on the heritage records. What do we do in these circumstances? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- The heritage records often have spelling mistakes in them. Take for example, this. There are two different spellings (Mitchell's Building and Mitchells Building) within the same heritage entry. Steelkamp (talk) 09:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- So should I just move it regardless of sources? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- My 2c worth: use the correct punctuation and put "(sic)" after the incorrect. People burdened by a modern education will never distinguish the difference anyway. :-) Cheers, Simon. SCHolar44 (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Laterthanyouthink, I can't speak for Australian heritage records, but it's not rare for US historic sites to use the singular when we'd expect a plural. (For example, Woman's Club of Fall River, or Worker's House at Lower Laurel Iron Works, or the redlinked Turner's Hall, a meeting place for American Turners). It seems to me too common to be an error, so I've accepted it as a peculiar usage. Nyttend (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks all. It is frustrating that people doing heritage records cannot get the basic grammar right. I was just looking at Freemasons Hotel and that doesn't have the apostrophe at all (which some would argue is valid because the building not a possession of the Freemasons, fair enough). But if there is an apostrophe, it should at least be in the right place! As all of the British ones include the apostrophe at the end, I am inclined to use SCHolar44's interpretation above. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Laterthanyouthink, I can't speak for Australian heritage records, but it's not rare for US historic sites to use the singular when we'd expect a plural. (For example, Woman's Club of Fall River, or Worker's House at Lower Laurel Iron Works, or the redlinked Turner's Hall, a meeting place for American Turners). It seems to me too common to be an error, so I've accepted it as a peculiar usage. Nyttend (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- My 2c worth: use the correct punctuation and put "(sic)" after the incorrect. People burdened by a modern education will never distinguish the difference anyway. :-) Cheers, Simon. SCHolar44 (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- So should I just move it regardless of sources? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair use claims[edit]
Does any of you ever upload nonfree images under fair use claims? When I lived in the US, I occasionally uploaded nonfree images with fair use claims, since only US law applied to me. But now that I've immigrated to Australia, I don't know whether I should be comfortable doing this, lest I get in real-life trouble for uploading something that doesn't qualify as AU fair dealing even if it's US fair use. Please don't give legal advice, of course. Nyttend (talk) 22:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia Fair Use policy applies to Australian articles as in the US. This is based on US law but is more restrictive. In particular, it should only be used when necessary and relevant.--Grahame (talk) 04:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't ask the question the right way. I'm quite familiar with the policy and how to apply it. I meant: are you (anyone, not just Grahamec) uncomfortable uploading nonfree images when they fit the policy, because we live in a country with a different system of exemptions to copyright and you're concerned that you might get into real-life problems, or do you upload such images because you think the real-life legal situation is unlikely to cause real-life problems? Nyttend (talk) 19:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are many people in Australia adding nonfree images to Wikipedia, myself included. Just look at articles on Australian music, movies, or books, that have posters and artwork added even though these are in copyright, with many of the contributors Australia based. I doubt that by doing this there could be any real life problems, but perhaps you have encountered some personally? Jimmyjrg (talk) 02:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't ask the question the right way. I'm quite familiar with the policy and how to apply it. I meant: are you (anyone, not just Grahamec) uncomfortable uploading nonfree images when they fit the policy, because we live in a country with a different system of exemptions to copyright and you're concerned that you might get into real-life problems, or do you upload such images because you think the real-life legal situation is unlikely to cause real-life problems? Nyttend (talk) 19:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's requirements for non-free use content are stricter than the fair use laws of the United States and Australia, which should prevent you from facing problems when uploading non-free use images. Steelkamp (talk) 04:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Welcome to Australia, by the way. – Teratix ₵ 03:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
A nationality one[edit]
How to describe Miriam Margoyles? Not as easy as it sounds. There's a discussion here on the talk page. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Victorian Parliament images[edit]
Came across this image used on the Steph Ryan page which is taken from the Victorian Parliament website
I don't really know much about the copyright on these images, is someone able to confirm whether they can be used (with the appropriate licensing of course) or not? Because if they are it seems worthwhile getting them uploaded to the pages of all Victorian state MPs without existing images Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 12:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- It was apparently uploaded by the Nationals, but given the Vic Parliament says all of their website content is copyrighted and can't be shared for commercial use, I'd say it should be removed from Commons. https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/copyright/
- If you want to add photos of all the MPs you could contact individual MPs asking for a photo, or attend an event to take a photo yourself. It could be something worth getting funding from WMAU to do. Perhaps you could even partner with WMAU to run an info session about Commons for MPs? Jimmyjrg (talk) 00:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
I left this message on the New South Wales project talk page, but that project appears to be lifeless. Anyone here want to have a crack at cleaning up this article?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_South_Wales#Lydham_Hall 76.14.122.5 (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- See Talk:Lydham Hall#Referencing, and discuss there if necessary. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024[edit]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)