User talk:Smirkingman

User:Smirkingman/sandbox[edit]

Hi. I've deleted your sandbox for you. Just a note that in future you can used WP:CSD#U1 as a criteria to get rid of stuff in your own userspace, rather than G7. Pedro : Chat 15:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pedro, thank you for helping, a bit of steep learning curve for me. Smirkingman (talk) 16:50, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not in your user space (i.e., it doesn't start with User:Smirkingman/) then use G7, such as for Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thomas Minder. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the G7 hint! Does my replying like this notify you (Amorymeltzer)? I haven't fully understood the WP mechanics yet. Smirkingman (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not directly, not like when I post here. If you post on my talk I will see a notification. However, I have this page watchlisted, which means that I'll see the new edits if I go to my watchlist. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, another learning gem, enjoyable, thanks! Smirkingman (talk) 20:42, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article title formatting[edit]

Just to let you know, regardless of the actual name of the referendum, all referendum articles have to be titled in the format "Demonym subject referendum, year" - e.g. Swiss unfair competition referendum, 1944.

The second issue is that (as I noted on the AfD discussion page) we also use WP:COMMONNAME for deciding article titles, and whilst "agsinst rip-off salaries" is the official name, most media outlets are referring to it as a referendum on executive pay. Cheers, Number 5 7 21:23, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up. I see your points, but Minder has an MBA from an American university, he's thus well-qualified to choose an accurate title in English for his own initiative. The fact that a gaggle of journalists have made liberal translations of the title doesn't make them authoritative. Smirkingman (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. You may be right about Minder, but that doesn't invalidate the common name policy. Number 5 7 21:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't grasped the objection to Minder's title (à la "Swiss against rip-off salaries initiative 2013", albeit clumsy) in WP:COMMONNAME; probably due to my lack of experience. Rather than flogging the horse to death, I suggest we await consensus from the AfD and my proposed rename, which if I understand correctly should happen within 7 days. FYI, Minder is also renowned as very uncompromising; if his assistant's request for renaming is passed over, I very much doubt that he'll let it pass; could be interesting. Smirkingman (talk) 22:06, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately Minder has no say whatsoever as to what happens on Wikipedia, and any effort to influence the process (which will no doubt be classed as WP:COI) would only serve to antagonise editors against any proposed change. I suspect the AfD will result in a keep vote, but it won't have any impact on the renaming (a separate discussion on the article's talk page in the form of a requested move would be needed if you're still unhappy with the current title). Number 5 7 22:11, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Minder, you and I have exactly the same say in reaching consensus on WP, as you well know. Let's wait for that consensus :) Smirkingman (talk) 22:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]