User talk:Raúl Quintana Tarufetti
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Sincerely, Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC) (Leave me a message)
Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Raúl,
I've taken a look at the articles you mentioned and the revversions by you and the other user are multiple so this turns a bit confusing for an editor who has not been involved in the discussion since it started.
Nevertheless Svarter is right when he states that the RSSSF (see page) is a reliable and good source, but it is updated up to 2008 so there are a lot of years missing. The FIFA source indicates 42 wins per side as of Nov 2023. The same result than Promiedos, another good site about statistics. The website Goal.com also indicates a 42-42 tie on wins.
As a result, I'm going to edit the page based on the sources cited. If Svartner reverts my edit, I'll open a discussion at his talk page and, if he does not change his attitude, I won't have any other option than reporting the case at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. If I have to do it, I'll notify you asking for your feedback.
Best regards, Fma12 (talk) 10:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
May 2024[edit]
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Onorem (talk) 08:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Brazil national football team records and statistics. Rahio1234 08:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- RE: Your message on my page. You are both edit warring. Look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I have no interest in this topic. --Onorem (talk) 21:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- A note for both you and @Rahio1234:, Look at WP:VANDAL and stop saying other users involved in a content dispute are vandalizing. --Onorem (talk) 21:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Raúl_Quintana_Tarufetti reported by User:Onorem (Result: ). Thank you. Onorem (talk) 22:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
May 2024[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 22:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Raúl Quintana Tarufetti (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I only tried to help and correct mistakes of those articles, that were no neutral, with poor sources, clarely in favour of Brazil. The one who started to remove well referenced texts I put was Svartner, not me. Look, first in March: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]. Then, he started again in May (with the talk page with the issue I´ve already started): [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]. I think he clarely deserves a block too. I gave lot of neutral sources (7), and the only thing it appeared to matter was an accusation agaist me of WP:SPA, and the violation of the three-revert rule (that he also did), but nobody appeared to participate in those articles and no one tried to solve the dispute in the discussion. It was me who satrted the discussion in the talk page [19] to reach an agreement... I gave lot of sources (7), and no one went right to the ponit of the discussion to solve it: the amount of games won by Argentina and by Brazil in the history of the rivalry, and the sources. With the days, as I saw that the other user was very capricious and as nobody participated in the talk page, I had to post in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents informing the situation. But, again, nobody did anything. Instead of participate or trying to solve the dispute, many users started to accusate me... So the final result is that I´m blocked because of a "technicality", but blocked at last... I accept to be part of an edit warring, and I apologise. But please try to understand I didn´t have responses of anybody to participate in the dispute, and the other user Svartner was clarely in the edit war too, and tried to impose his only point of view in favour of Brazil, disrespecting the serious sources I gave. He started this edit war, he also violated three-revert rule as I demonstrate above. It would be fair for him to be blocked too . PD: Oh, I almost forgot: Onorem please, if you read this and you are fair you should report Svartner too, as you did with me [20]. Thanks. Raúl Quintana Tarufetti (talk) 23:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You are trying to justify your edit warring, not tell why it was wrong. 331dot (talk) 07:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- They didn't revert again after being warned. You did. That's why you were reported. I assume the administrator who reviewed my report looked at the history. --Onorem (talk) 23:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, but it´s not necessary to be reported to be blocked for violateing one rule. And he violated one too, clarely: in march and in may, as I demonstrated in this post avobe. Ok, I will wait this week and I will return with more knowledge about the functioning of the english wikipedia. I will continue with the spanish one a few minutes a day, where I don´t have problems. Happily I can live without this wikipedia. --Raúl Quintana Tarufetti (talk) 00:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- 331dot: Ok. I only wanted to say that the block was partial and in a point unfair because the edit war was started by Svartner and no one participated to try to solve the principal issue: the sources and the frequent reversals the user Svartner did. If I was blocked, the other user (who started the edit war) deserved to be blocked too. I stop it now here, because I don´t want to aggravate this issue with another technicality typical of Wikipedia. End of this for me. --Raúl Quintana Tarufetti (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- 331dot and Onorem: please, see the user Svartner continues reverting now today in the article Argentina–Brazil football rivalry, with no consensus, doing the same he did in march and in may, trying to impose his own point of view. He did it today. Look [21] [22] Regards, --Raúl Quintana Tarufetti (talk) 23:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)