User talk:Archivisticus

Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, Archivisticus, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! - Ahunt (talk) 11:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question about versions[edit]

Hi there. Yes indeed that is exactly the way you leave someone a message - just edit their talk page, as you did. It is like e-mail, except everyone in the world can read it! It makes for polite conversation!

The answer to your question is simple - Wikipedia is licenced under a free licence, meaning anyone can reproduce the content for any purpose. The page you were looking at is on another website and is a very old version of the U of M article. Of course any other webiste that reprints Wikipedia articles will never be up-to-date, as Wikipedia will always be at least one edit ahead of the copies! I hope that answers your question? Drop me a note anytime. I am on here most days! - Ahunt (talk) 00:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Searching[edit]

An excellent question. It isn't actually a searching problem, so much as a redirect question. Wikipedia is full of redirects. This means that when you type into the search bar: "T.G. Hamilton" it should, automatically redirect you to "Thomas Glendenning Hamilton" or at least a disambiguation page where all the different "T.G. Hamilton"s are listed. Sometimes when someone creates a new article, they forget to make the most common alternate names as redirects and then it falls to those of us who find the article to fill in the missing redirect.

Redirects are easy and fun to do! I have made many! All you do is first find the article that actually exists and then search for the obvious other titles that should also get you there. For instance for the Thomas Glendenning Hamilton article I would expect the following would get you redirected to that page:

and perhaps several more! When you find one that doesn't exist yet, you click on "create this page" and type in:

#Redirect [[Thomas Glendenning Hamilton]]

and then save the page. It will create the redirect. Neat, eh?

Here is a link to a real-life redirect page, so you can see what is required

Yes usually we use a person's full name in article titles, just because there may be so many people with the same first and last name. - Ahunt (talk) 00:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia[edit]

Hey those photos that you have there sound like a great resource! I think the easiest way is, as you suggest, to licence the photos under Creative Commons and then upload them to Wikimedia Commons, unless some of them are already the Public Domain, in which case they can be uploaded as PD. The advantage of putting them on Commons under a free licence is that they will then be available for use on all the other languages in Wikipedia, such as French, German, Chinese, etc, which will encourage articles to be written about those subjects in those languages.

I have uploaded over 500 photos that I have taken myself and I make them all Public Domain, which you can do if you own them outright. It is amazing to see where they have turned up on other wiki-projects and also on websites all over the net. This is really the central tenant of the Free Culture Movement - freely sharing of knowledge and images for the benefit of everyone.

Incidentally I am a U of M graduate, 1998 psych/geography. - Ahunt (talk) 17:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Another Person with Same Name[edit]

That is a good question to ask. I am assuming you have a person you want to start an article on, say "Jane Smith", who is an archivist, but the problem is that there is already a "Jane Smith" page for another person, say an actress? There are a couple of ways of handling this:

You could start the new article under the person's full name, say "Jane Allison Smith"
You could add a professional or other qualifier and title the new article "Jane Smith (archivist)" or something similar.
You could move the existing article to "Jane Smith (actress)" or "Jane Sarah Smith" or something appropriate and then rewrite the existing "Jane Smith" page to become a disambiguation page, like this one: John Smith (just go to edit this page and copy the text for a sample and then change it as required to suit the new subject) and then create your new "Jane Allison Smith" or "Jane Smith (archivist)" article as per above.

The first or second options are probably likely to get less push-back from other editors, particularly if the page you want to move is a famous person!

As far as starting a new article, you just type in the proposed name of the new article in the search bar and hit "Go". If the page doesn't exist then you will be given the choice to create the page, click on that and it will present an edit space. The title of the article (the name at the top of the page) will be what you searched for, so do make sure it is spelled correctly! One hint, make sure your article is well footnoted right from the start or it will get CSDed as "non-notable" within minutes. It is usually best to start a new article in a sandbox space and work on it until you are happy with it and it is well referenced and then copy and paste the code into the final article title space when it is almost perfect.

You can start your own sandbox page, by just clicking here and creating the page: User:Archivisticus/Sandbox. Then that is your own space to use for any lay-ups or practice work. You may have seen I have two sandboxes I use: User:Ahunt/Sandbox (for templates) and User:Ahunt/Sandbox2 for articles, although in this case there is a table sitting there that I designed. You may want to put a link to it on your user page so you can find it again!

Moving a page to a new title is easy - just click on move on the top tabs and the rest is self-explanatory.

I hope that helps - let me know if you need a better explanation or more help! - Ahunt (talk) 23:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviations[edit]

No problem, nice to hear from you!

The "m" means he designated it as a "minor" change. That means that he thinks that it isn't substantial and therefore some editors might decide that they don't need to double check what he did. It is supposed to be a labour-saver in double checking, but personally for all the articles I watch, I check all changes, regardless.

In this case he changed "October 16th, 2008" to "October 16, 2008", eliminating the "th". The link he left is supposed to lead to Wikipedia:DATE#Dates, which is the Manual of Style entry on how to format dates in Wikipedia. It shows there that "th" is not used, which is why he removed it, hence the "minor" edit.

I hope that explains it? Please do leave me a note any time! - Ahunt (talk) 17:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use of citeweb[edit]

Thanks for your question - glad to help out when I can! There is a page of suggested templates at Wikipedia:Citation templates. The one I use is this one:

<ref name="Baugher_f4_41"> {{cite web|url = http://home.att.net/~jBaugher1/f4_41.html|title = Phantom with Israel|accessdate = 2009-06-15|last = Baugher|first = Joseph F.|authorlink = |year = 2009|month = June}}</ref>

I like it because it is compact and doesn't totally break up the text when you are reading the mark-up pages. There is so much variation in citations forms on Wikipedia that I wouldn't bother going back to fix old citations, unless they bother you. Probably someone else will change them anyway! Incidentally I have collected some useful templates together that I use all the time at User:Ahunt/Tags. - Ahunt (talk) 15:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox[edit]

Thanks for your note. Yes you ran into a technical limitation of sandbox pages - they are treated just like every other Wikipedia page and that means if you add categories to the sandbox page that it will show up in the category list. No problem, this is easy to fix - the simplest way is what I have done on your sandbox page. I restored your page and put the categories inside <pre> </pre> tags. This 'nullifies' the categories and means that your sandbox page won't show up in the actual category lists. You can then just go ahead and freely work on the sandbox article. When you are ready to post the article, just copy and paste it into the right article space and, as a last step, remove the <pre> </pre> tags.

I hope that all makes sense? - Ahunt (talk) 15:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't Correct the Problem[edit]

No problem, glad I can help!

I had a look at the Richard Condie article and the categories at the bottom and I don't see your page in the categories at all. It all looks fine, good work!

Wikipedia won't show links to past versions of pages, just current ones. I suspect your partner is either viewing pages that are cached on his browser (hit F5 to reload the page) or perhaps that the Wikipedia servers were slow in catching the pages up when he last checked (which happens). - Ahunt (talk)

Manual[edit]

Thanks for your note - sure no problem. - Ahunt (talk) 21:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can easily create a new page for it to reside at, such as User:Archivisticus/Manual or similar. Wikipedia isn't a web-hosting service, but as long as the page is about Wikipedia with the aim of helping people contribute, it shouldn't run into too many problems. A good example of a similar page would be User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior. - Ahunt (talk) 15:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Walter Meyer zu Erpen (February 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Modussiccandi was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Thank you for writing this substantial draft. I've decided to reject it because I am not convinced the subject has received the substantial coverage required for inclusion in Wikipedia. Rather, the draft attempts to source much of its content from publications by the subject, which are in no way a substitute for coverage in third-party sources. To help reviewers, could you point out in this section the three most substantial pieces of coverage in third-party sources you've used in a new version of the draft?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Modussiccandi (talk) 21:05, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Archivisticus! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Modussiccandi (talk) 21:05, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archivisticus (talk) 05:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Thanks, I'll review your suggestions and see what I can do![reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Walter Meyer zu Erpen[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Walter Meyer zu Erpen[edit]

Hello, Archivisticus. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Walter Meyer zu Erpen".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Having a few medical issues to deal with in the family. It may still be a while before I can pick it up again. Sorry for the delay!! Archivisticus (talk) 05:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]