Template:Did you know nominations/Sceriman family

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Sceriman family

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• ... that the Sceriman family were a wealthy Safavid merchant family of Armenian ethnicity, who came to preside over branches all over the world, stretching from Italy in the west to Burma in the east?
  • ALT1: ... that the Sceriman family were a wealthy Armenian merchant family originating in early 17th-century Safavid Iran, who would become renowned not only in Iran, but later also abroad in the Austro-Hungarian Empire and especially the Republic of Venice?

Created by LouisAragon (talk). Self-nominated at 03:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC).

• Comment: this will be LouisAragon's sixth DYK nomination: the first one ran in early 2016, the second earlier this month, the third and fourth have just been promoted to prep, and the fifth was approved earlier today. So LouisAragon will be required to submit a QPQ (quid pro quo) review of another DYK nomination before this one can be approved. I have just struck ALT1, which is very far over the 200-character maximum for DYK hooks (including spaces). BlueMoonset (talk) 23:29, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset:,  Done --> Template:Did you know nominations/Orobanche uniflora - LouisAragon (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:06, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

: It seems the article was too old to be eligible for DYK? It was created on 1 March and only nominated 15 days later on 16 March. New articles need to be at most 7 days old when nominated. Let me know if I'm missing something. HaEr48 (talk) 02:11, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

• HaEr48, I believe you didn't see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 137#Recent late nominations. All of the other late nominations made by this DYK novice were reviewed and promoted, including one from February 28, so consensus seems to be that in this case, March 1 was not too late. Please review this as having had an acceptable delay. (It will not be acceptable for future nominations, now that he knows.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:36, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks BlueMoonset for the clarification. Ignoring the delay, the article is long enough, well-sourced and appear to not be a copyvio. I don't like the hook, it's too long (190+ characters, it's barely within the 200 limit) to effectively capture attention in the main page. Could you come up with a shorter hook? I suggest focusing on one fact, instead of trying to stuff many things into a sentence. QPQ is in order. HaEr48 (talk) 02:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

@HaEr48:, what about; ALT2:... that the Sceriman family, a wealthy Safavid merchant family of Armenian ethnicity, gained Roman citizenship in 1696? - LouisAragon (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. This hook is short and interesting enough, and appears in both the article and the Iranica source. Good to go. HaEr48 (talk) 22:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Also, the image has a valid copyright tag, but I don't think it's very relevant to the hook. Recommending the promoter to skip the image. HaEr48 (talk) 22:37, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@HaEr48:,  Done - LouisAragon (talk) 23:11, 16 April 2017 (UTC)