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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Calvin Royal III

  • ... that even though Calvin Royal III did not start formal dance training until he was 14, he went on to become a principal dancer with the American Ballet Theatre? Source: "Royal didn't get his start in ballet until age 14" ([1]) "Among the new principal dancers is Calvin Royal III" ([2])
    • ALT1:... that in September 2020, Calvin Royal III became the third black person to be a principal dancer with the American Ballet Theatre? Source: "Among the new principal dancers is Calvin Royal III, 31, who is the third Black dancer to be elevated to this role in the company’s history, after Desmond Richardson and Misty Copeland." ([3])
    • ALT2:... that ballet dancer Calvin Royal III's performance in Agon was praised by the role's originator Arthur Mitchell? Source: "Afterwards, Mitchell turned to the audience from his blue leather chair and smiled. "I would say it's in good hands."" ([4])

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:39, 11 September 2020 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I think ALT1 or ALT0 would be more interesting compared to ALT2. epicgenius (talk) 19:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments: I reviewed this for interest, didn't see the review above. For me, ALT2 is most unique ;) - In the article, I feel that "but" is used sometimes where I wouldn't expect it, for example "studied the piano but". Sometimes a word seems missing, such as before the quote about the most elegant ... - I come from opera, where a role would be "created" not "originated". Is that different in ballet? Also in opera, when a piece has an article, we don't also link the creator, here Balanchine. What we do, however, is adding the creator's surname before a piece, such as "Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet", to distinguish from Shakespeare's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I do see your point regarding the surname of creators. I'll add the choreographers of Romeo and Juliet and Harlequinade as there are many versions of the ballets. However, Giselle is usually referring to the similar versions, so I don't think that is necessary. On roles, both "created" and "originated" works, because in a few instances the dancers who worked with the choreographer don't get to perform on opening night due to injuries or bureaucratic reasons (such as Kenneth MacMillan's Romeo and Juliet, when the Royal Ballet forced MacMillan to have Nureyev and Fonteyn to dance the lead roles instead of the dancers he worked with) I don't know the guideline regarding whether to link the choreographers or not but when I saw several articles that linked them so I followed. I'll also rephrase a few sentences to use the word "but" less. On the hook, all three are fine for me, and it's possible to combine ALT0 and ALT1Corachow (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Understand, thank you. epicgenius is the reviewer, - I just wanted to learn. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this. Please provide an inline cite for the ALT0 hook fact (for this sentence: At age 14, he was recommended to audition for Pinellas County Center for the Arts at Gibbs High School's dance program and was accepted despite his lack of dance training.). Also, there is a formatting error in footnote 3. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I moved footnote three so now it has an inline citation. However, I cannot figure out what was wrong with the formatting of footnote three. I’ll try to it fix it later. Corachow (talk) 12:15, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
    I fixed that ref for you but don't ask me what I did. In the end, cutting the title right after "III" seems to have done the trick. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
  • You're amazing, Gerda! Hook ref verified and cited inline. Restoring tick for ALT0 per epicgenius' review. Yoninah (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)