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Sources[edit]

Almost all of the sources about the attack are from Israeli news sources, maybe more sources should be provided although everything seems pretty lack lister when it comes to this. 213.34.153.124 (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmed was charged with accompanying his cousin, he didn’t stab anyone and this was not proven in court. He was sentenced for accompanying his cousin. 61.8.125.168 (talk) 04:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nythar (talk) 05:17, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/israel-opt-palestinian-prisoner-arrested-as-a-child-ahmad-manasra-still-in-prison-despite-worsening-mental-health/#:~:text=Ahmad%20Manasra%20was%20arrested%20on,settlement%20in%20occupied%20East%20Jerusalem. 2A00:23C5:39AB:3701:28B1:80BB:5E24:AFDE (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello? Why hasn’t this change been implemented? Catofminerva (talk) 20:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article is protected against new users. I don't know if it is because of an editwar or vandalism. I'm unfortunatelly to new in the english Wikipedia and couldn't edit the article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolf170278 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images of the terroist/convicts[edit]

Hey dose anywone know where i can find images of the convict, and it might be usefult to have it in this wikipedia arrtical. Johshh (talk) 23:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He was found not guilty of the stabbings and thus I cannot provide you with images of a terrorist, seeing as he isn’t one 217.103.165.88 (talk) 01:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong information[edit]

It was concluded by court that Ahmad did not stab anyone. Please update the page. 2A00:23C5:39AB:3701:28B1:80BB:5E24:AFDE (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad did not stab yet he is still imprisoned and in solitary prison too 154.108.252.210 (talk) 21:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He was convincted of attempt murder not by murder. 2.55.33.87 (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please use unbiased sources and fact check. Amnesty International’s website, amongst other credible sources have stated that courts found 13 year old Ahmed was NOT involved in the stabbings. Amend accordingly as this is hate speech against Palestinians and distortion of facts 2A01:4B00:9D4D:E000:64F4:E6FF:6B7A:6993 (talk) 16:18, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. what you are complaining about seems covered in the #Trial of Ahmed section. Not sure what exactly you are requesting, also not sure how this can be hate speech Cannolis (talk) 22:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It’s simply spreading wrong information, you can’t say both of them stabbed people when only Hasan had allegedly done it even though he was killed by a civilian before it could be proven in court. Read the Amnesty International article about it 217.103.165.88 (talk) 01:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change “ both from Beit Hanina stabbed two Israelis in the Israeli settlement of Pisgat Ze'ev” to “ both from Beit Hanina. One of them, Hassan, allegedly stabbed two Israelis in the Israeli settlement of Pisgat Ze'ev”

The original line suggests they’re both guilty, but they’re not unless ruled so in court. However, since Hasan was killed and Ahmad was found not participating in the stabbings by Israeli court but still sentenced to prison 217.103.165.88 (talk) 01:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He did participated in the stabbings.

Court ruled him guilty of attempt murder. 2.55.33.87 (talk) 18:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Just because Ahmad didn't manage to stab anyone, it doesn't mean he didn't participate in the stabbings. Also, consider this sentence: "My mom and my sister went to the shop and bought food", you wouldn't call it incorrect, just because the sister didn't buy anything by herself (only mom paid for the food). Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 14:00, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 18 is from a depreciated source.[edit]

As it is depreciated per RFC: Electronic Intifada, particularly due to issues in this area, I would like to remove the source and it’a content unless it can be sourced by an RS. Is anyone opposed to that? FortunateSons (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abbas[edit]

The article cites "Abbas" with no introduction or identification. It would be better to properly introduce Abbas e.g.: Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, reacted strongly ... Cuchulain9 (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discrimination[edit]

This article is heavily biased against Palestinians, and justifies imprisonment of children by israel 212.112.122.128 (talk) 02:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clear contradictions[edit]

Wait what this article with no sources begins by saying Ahmad stabbed a settler, click on his article and it clearly says he was not found to have done this, citing Israeli news sources. And editing this page is frozen?? Clear contradiction and evidence of bias. 75.219.231.55 (talk) 02:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation[edit]

This article needs to be revised as soon as possible. The misinformation in the very first sentence – that Ahmad Manasra stabbed the two victims – which is later contradicted by the article itself, is an obvious problem and delegitimizes the article as a whole. Papiraffald (talk) 15:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]