Talk:Mesirah

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This is a law that is sourced back to the Talmud (soon after the Jews were exiled from Israel). It was instituted as a result of persecution by non Jews, and non Jewish authorities. Among the reasons for this Rabbinic law explained in the Commentaries on shulchan Aruch (if I remember correctly the Shabbatai HaKohen), is that once a Jew is in the hands of non Jewish authority (even for a legitimate reason) - they will make new libels against the Jew.

(Other sections could include how the law has a history of shielding Jews from unfair treatment and persecution over the years, including in recent history when Russia and the Soviet Union would use Jewish informants (those who had already given up their religion) to dress like the Jews and spy on the community's religious activities - usually resulting in members being sent to prison - unlikely to come out alive.)

I don't know when I will have time to get back to this. Chabadbris (talk) 04:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Development[edit]

I am happy that this article has been developed since its creation. Zezen (talk) 17:23, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Famous 19c Russian case[edit]

Novaya Ushitsa case (1838-1840), when two Jewish men who were accused of harming the Jewish community in Sokolets were killed in Novaya Ushitsa by a group of local Jews. The latter were convicted of murder. Rabbi Yisrael of Ruzhin (1796-1850) was accused of agreeing to the murder and exiled from his Hasidic court,....

https://www.yadvashem.org/untoldstories/database/index.asp?cid=725 Zezen (talk) 06:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Christianity[edit]

Some(really "most") Christian sources have theorized that this was the "grave/worse sin" Jesus mentioned to Pontius Pilate during his trial and that it may have existed in Judaism during the New Testament era(as with many things later written down in the Talmud). I'm just wondering if other users think it's worthwhile mentioning briefly? Colliric (talk) 07:25, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]