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Apologies if this is already in the article, but it probably should go in that first paragraph in the section '2023 Trial' as it explains the discrepancy between the number of murder charges in the first paragraphs and the number of counts to which she pled not guilty in the second. 2A00:23C6:AE87:3401:9C2F:756E:70EC:DCE7 (talk) 11:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know the primary sources template was added a long while ago, and refreshed earlier this month. When can that template be removed? I'm trying to figure out which are the worst sources we should be looking to replace.
Are there any other sources that need to be removed? Soni (talk) 12:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It does not look like anyone else has opinions on it. I have removed the primary sources template. I do not think that template applies, though I still would like to cut down on overuse of sources Soni (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Senior Investigating Officer Paul Hughes later said: "the initial focus was around the hypotheses of what could have occurred: so generic hypotheses of 'it could be natural-occurring deaths', 'it could be natural-occurring collapses', 'it could be an organic reason', 'it could be a virus', and then one of the hypotheses was that, obviously, it could be inflicted harm." -> this sentence has no reliable source to back it up, so it needs to be deleted. I checked the source and did not find it in the source. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:AD59:A396:7B54:FD9E (talk) 03:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have just also checked and I am in agreement with you. I've removed this line. HouseplantHobbyist (talk) 07:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What did you check? I found it at about 4:32 in the video in the cited source. So I have restored it. -- DeFacto (talk). 08:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear, my mistake. I hadn't realised there was a video within the article and that's what it referred to. I thought it was the Sky report itself. HouseplantHobbyist (talk) 08:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please change "Lucy Letby (born 4 January 1990) is a British former neonatal nurse who murdered seven infants and attempted the murder of six others between June 2015 and June 2016." to "Lucy Letby (born 4 January 1990) is a British former neonatal nurse who was convicted of murdering seven infants and attempting the murder of six others between June 2015 and June 2016. 2603:6010:CF01:DD1:BCDB:FF02:134C:47D2 (talk) 02:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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In the May 20, 2024 issue of the New Yorker Magazine, there is an article by Rachel Aviv, called "Conviction, Did a neonatal nurse really kill seven newborns?". The article suggests that the allegations against and trial and conviction of Lucy Letby, the accused, may be faulty and based on data from which erroneous conclusions were made. My suggestion is rather than starting the bio with the characterization "murderer of seven infants" it be changed to a more ambiguous description such as "neonatal nurse accused and convicted by UK Court".
Perhaps include some of the points made in the New Yorker article to leave for consideration, the possibility of other possible causes (the hospital was understaffed and mismanaged, currently they are experiencing a jump in complications in women in the post-natal unit) and also, the seeming bias toward conviction of some of the witnesses and police agency.
Thank you,
Karen Blume 71.212.172.63 (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]