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There really ought to be some explanation, or link to one, of what "torched-hold incident" means. Is that even climbing jargon? 66.75.21.58 (talk) 03:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also the external link has died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.213.34 (talk) 17:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
