Talk:Jawdhar

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Review: September 20, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Jawdhar appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 September 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the memoirs of the eunuch chamberlain Jawdhar are one of the most important sources on the history of the Fatimid Caliphate in the mid–10th century?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:13, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the eunuch chamberlain Jawdhar was likely responsible for the accession of al-Mansur Billah as ruler of the Fatimid Caliphate in 946? Source: "given the murky fate of Qāsim, the Qāʾim’s firstborn and natural successor, the story looks suspiciously like a fabrication to legitimise a palace coup effected by Jawdhar on behalf of his master" (Brett 2017, p. 59)
- ALT1:... that the memoirs of the eunuch chamberlain Jawdhar are one of the most important sources on the history of the Fatimid Caliphate during the middle of the 10th century? Source: "Die Sita, die Ğauḏar's Sekretär nach dem Tode seines Chefs, gestützt auf dessen Erinerrungen und hinterlassene Papiere verfasste...nach dem Tod al-Mahdis ist die Sirat Ğauḏar unsere wichtigste Quelle" (Halm 1991, p. 249)

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5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both of the hooks look good to me, so I am going to cop out and let the coordinator choose. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:00, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gog the Mild, QPQ is now done. Constantine ✍ 06:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 18:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jawdhar/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 17:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

GA Criteria

GA Criteria:

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No DAB links Y
No dead links Y
No missing citations Y (I don't suppose the third book in memoirs technically needs a citation, but as the other two are cited you may wish to add one for uniformity).

Discussion[edit]

Spotchecks performed on bits from Brett and Haji (the only two I have access to). Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 17:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

Origin and early career[edit]

(No suggestion) Jawdhar was a eunuch slave of Slavic origin (Saqaliba): Fascinating how the motivation for having such slaves is basically identical to the Varangian Guard of their perennial allies.

Under al-Mansur[edit]

Jawdhar insists in his memoirs that he was the trustee of al-Mansur's secret nomination as his father's heir already at the time of al-Qa'im's own accession in 934, the matter of succession was, theoretically, up entirely to al-Qa'im, and not elected/consulted by others, correct? If so, suggest perhaps changing secret nomination to undisclosed selection, if not, suggest a brief explanation of who else was involved.
@Cplakidas: that is all my suggestions, a very nice article and interesting read. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 18:13, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.