Talk:Francis Turville-Petre

A fact from Francis Turville-Petre appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 February 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that archaeologist Francis Turville-Petre, discoverer of Neanderthal remains in Israel, was portrayed in works by authors W. H. Auden and Christopher Isherwood?

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Francis Turville-Petre[edit]

(Copied from Macspaunday's talk page)

Thanks for correcting my mistake. I see you have contributed a great deal to Wikipedia about W. H. Auden - could I pick your brains? I have read about Auden's lost play from 1930, The Fronny, but cannot find out if it is named after Francis T-P. Do you know if it is? I would like to add this to the FTP article if it is true. By the way, how did you find the FTP article an hour after it had been created? I'm a relative newcomer to Wikipedia - is there a way of being alerted when search terms crop up? I find using the 'search' facility itself rather cumbersome/time-consuming. Many thanks. Jasper33 13:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The Fronny" is definitely named after Francis Turville-Petre, although the character of the Fronny in the play is a fantasy version of him, not a portrait; it's more or less the same figure as Sir Francis in "The Dog Beneath the Skin". (For documentation, see Humphrey Carpenter's biography of Auden and the critical books by Fuller and Mendelson.) I think I found the new page because the page on Christopher Isherwood is one of the dozen or so pages on my "watchlist" (look at the "my watchlist" link at the top of the menu to add pages to this), and I think you added a link to the new page on the Isherwood page. I can't be certain, but that's what seems most likely.

I seem to remember that Spender records a visit, perhaps in World within World, which might be worth noting. I'm very pleased to see FTP get his first encyclopedia entry! Friendly warning: Wikipedia can be very time-consuming for people who want to get things right. Macspaunday 13:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I don't have access to the books you mention, so I'll have to add the info once I've got them from the library. Unless you fancy doing it... I'm going to copy this to the FTP talk page as it's where it should sit, I think. Jasper33 17:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have added the information, but will have to get the books out again to find the exact reference. Macspaunday 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks for that. Such an interesting family - I've just made a brief page for his brother Gabriel Turville-Petre. Jasper33 22:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Younger Brother, seems like he would have been the older brother could change but don't want to without verification from someone more in the know than me. John Paul Rennie 17:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oops - thanks! I've corrected it now. Jasper33 11:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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