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Casualties[edit]

All very interesting but you need to read and follow the Article Policies detailed at the top of this page. Wikipedia requires WP:RS for Wikipedia:Verifiability. Saying "I was there, so I know" is not adequate. If what you claim is accurate then there should be reliable sources for it, if such sources do not exist then even if true it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Mztourist (talk) 03:10, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also as an FYI, Schwartz's account here [1] is not WP:RS and I don't find it to be very plausible: Tachikawa Airfield couldn't land C-141s, so any flights would have landed at Yokota Air Base. Triage would have taken place on the battlefield and then at a Field hospital in Vietnam before patients would be transferred to a base hospital at one of the few airbases capable of handling C-141s (probably either Danang Air Base or Cam Ranh Air Base) to be medevacced out of the country, so it seems unlikely that after that patients would arrive at a hospital in Japan where "the mess hall was turned into a triage area" and patients were "covered from head to toe with mud and bloody field dressings" Mztourist (talk) 06:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have to let my wacko theory go for now. For one thing, the dates don't work. However, I believe we owe it to the guys who died on the hill to at least get the number of American casualties right. German was only giving casualties for his battalion. There were a similar number of artillery dead. I have found a list of those who died, it is a work in progress but I'll try to get it in a form I can reference and edit the article. The wounded may be harder to verify. I have found a source that gives the wounded as 61. That is consistent with my memory but you have set a pretty high bar for verification for edits to an article with not a lot of verification. (Didn't mean to delete your response---rookie mistake.) DennisK-Idaho (talk)

Its not that I have set a high bar for verification, all of Wikipedia requires WP:RS, which means that personal recollections do not qualify. Mztourist (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. I'll be working on that. How much interest do you have in the subject? I'd tend to believe the nurse. The mass casualty set up, BTW, was on Currahee, not Blaze. Why would the commanding officer of the battalion not know where his wounded were sent? The 101st publication Rendezvous With Destiny (Summer 1969) gives 62 dead and 420 wounded in the assault on HH. Contrast that with the number of casualties and dates given by Lt Col German. Rendezvous, BTW, has elements of the wrong battalion on FB Airborne. Although my theory of Airborne as bait may never be substantiated, we should at least get the straight story and a true accounting of casualties. Is that proper conversation on improving the article? DennisK-Idaho (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:19, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe the nurse for the reasons stated above, also she is the sole non WP:RS source for these claims. This page is not about the Battle of Hamburger Hill which has its own page, it is just about Firebase Airborne and what took place there. If you make edits here or on the Hamburger Hill page you need to provide WP:RS, not theories. Mztourist (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]