Talk:Economy of Greece/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 02:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The following is my issues with the article. I have quoted portions of the article and I recommend using ctrl + 4 to search for these quotations in the article:

• "The country's post-World War II development has largely been connected with the so-called Greek economic miracle." - [Citation needed]
• "Recent research[28] examines the gradual development" - Can you be a little more specific when you say "Recent research"? That could mean 1991, 2003, or 2012
• "Corruption, together with the associated issue of poor standards of tax collection, is widely regarded as both a key cause of the current troubles in the economy and a key hurdle in terms of overcoming the country's debt problem." - [Citation needed]
• "had not actually met all five accession criteria, and the common perception that Greece entered the Eurozone through "falsified" deficit numbers." - [Citation needed]
• "one of the highest rates in the world." - [Citation needed]
• "(183.8 thousand tons) and pistachios (8 thousand tons)[85] and ranked second in the production of rice (229.5 thousand tons)[85] and olives (147.5 thousand tons),[86] third in the production of figs (11 thousand tons) and [86] almonds (44 thousand tons) ,[86] tomatoes (1.4 million tons) [86] and watermelons (578.4 thousand tons)[86] and fourth in the production of tobacco (22 thousand tons)." - It looks odd saying something like "183.8 thousand tons"; why not write 183,800 tons?
• "Japan is second with 197 million[21] but Germany, which is ranked third," - I would add a coma between the reference and million, since it currently read "...with 197 million but Germany"
• "Tourism in the modern sense has only started to flourish in Greece in the years post-1950, although in ancient times, following the annexation of Greece by the Roman Empire, a great deal of wealthy Romans visited the country's centers of learning to further educate themselves. Since the 1960s and 1970s, the tourism sector saw a boost, which was further renewed when Greece hosted the 2004 Summer Olympics." - [Citation needed]
• "Currently, Greece is ranked third in the European Union in the production of marble (over 920,000 tonnes) after Italy and Spain." - [Citation needed]. Also, why is the unit tonnes spelled differently from tons as I quoted from above.
• "Greece does not have a flag carrier, but the country's airline industry is dominated by Olympic Air, the largest airline by number of destinations served, and Aegean Airlines, the largest airline by number of passengers carried." - [Citation needed]
• "or 31.9% of the all state expenses." - [Citation needed]

First of all, thank you for starting the review so promptly. Seeing the number of articles awaiting a review on the economics section, I was not expecting the procedure to start for weeks. I have attempted to address your aforementioned concerns, which I will henceforth address as "issue 1", "issue 2" etc for reasons of simplicity:

1 – I have added citations regarding the Greek Economic Miracle using this book on Greek economic history. I intend to find further sources, but my time is limited currently. I will most likely cite it further later tonight or tomorrow.

2 – "Recent research" changed to "Recent research from 2006"

3 and 4 – Due to time limitations, I will not be able to contribute to these two particular points presently as I was not the one who wrote them and my knowledge on this specific field is somewhat limited. I will investigate the matter and add references at a later point today or tomorrow.

5 – Is a reference necessary? That link redirects to a list of countries by debt as a percentage of GDP, which demostrates the validity of the point.

6 and 7 – Fixed as recommended.

8 – I rephrased this particular paragraph and added relevant citations on tourism.

9 – I must have forgotten to add the reference to that, I had the Eurostat page open when I wrote it :S I shall have to dig in the Eurostat database to find out what table I got that from and add the relevant citation. As for "tonnes" vs "tons", thank you for pointing it out. Ever since I moved to the UK my English has gotten ever more... English and I sometimes slip with the British orthography.

10 – I shall edit this later today.

11 – I have added the citation (budget 2012 page), but that particular statistic is not included in the budget itself. I calculated social expenditures percentage in relation to total state expenses (the budget) myself, would that be considered OR?

I don't think it would be OR--12george1 (talk) 04:00, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

--Philly boy92 (talk) 11:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

• Even after more than 3 weeks, nearly all of the above statements remained unsourced. Unfortunately, I feel this article cannot be passed due to the lack of citations. Sorry, but now I am going to fail this article. You may re-nominate this article after all issues have been fixed. Again, I am sorry that this had to happen, but I cannot consider this a GA if it does not meet the criteria, even three weeks after I gave it a review.--12george1 (talk) 01:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)