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"All the connoisseurs, diplomats and visitors to Florence portrayed are identifiable, making the painting a combination of the British eighteenth-century conversation piece or informal group portrait genre, with that of the predominantly Flemish seventeenth-century tradition of gallery views and wunderkammers. However, this inclusion of so many recognisable portraits led to criticism at the time by Zoffany's royal patrons, and by Horace Walpole, who called it ‘a flock of travelling boys, and one does not know nor care whom’.)"

However, considering all the books those Grand Tourists are reading, printcollector2@aol.com would like to know who and whom. The "Tribuna of the Uffizi" is the penultimate scene of the play. Just off the top of my head and not digging through my database or trying to be literally correct, just pushing Wiki's buttons ...

First I put your Wikilist in a left, middle, right order and add my comments below the items of your list. (This print collector is not into sculpture. It is not a story telling thing. It just says, "Here I am.")

Left

Arrotino, bottom left (sculpture)

Chimera of Arezzo, bottom left (sculpture) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_of_Arezzo

Cupid and Psyche, far left (sculpture) Carracci, Venus and Satyr, top left of left wall

Raphael, Madonna della seggiola, left of left wall What can I say within the bounds of decourm? "Raphael states the obvious with the chair post?"

Correggio, Madonna and Child, middle of left wall I can prove in a WGA forum Bianca Maria Sforza is Correggio's mother and Maximilain I (d. 1519) is one of the heroes of herstory. I take hours to write and look up the pictures of these little ditties. Typing here, I am just plowing the same rows over and over again.

Reni, Charity, top right of left wall Justus Sustermans, Galileo, right of left wall

Middle

Raphael, Madonna del cardellino, left of back wall I think the bird looks like a duck, though it could be a Lake Como grebe.

Raphael, St John the Baptist, middle of back wall One of Raphael's sons, probably Guilio Romano.

Reni, Madonna, top right of back wall Dancing Faun, left of back wall (sculpture) School of Titian, Madonna and Child with St Catherine, top left of back wall Franciabigio (formerly attributed to Raphael), Madonna del Pozzo, bottom right of back wall

Baby Hercules strangling two serpents, middle of back wall (sculpture) This could be a tip of the hat to Michelangelo's "Lacoon and His Sons". Yeah, it comes up in several of his wife's paintings. Michelangelo was struggling with a personal problem and he was into finding "antique sculpturing." http://www.wga.hu/html/r/raphael/2firenze/1/25drago2.html

Holbein, Sir Richard Southwell, middle-left of back wall

Portrait, once thought to be of Martin Luther by Holbein, middle-right of back wall That is Perugino.

Holy Family, now attributed to Niccolò Soggi, bottom right of back wall Rubens, Venus and Mars, middle of back wall The Two Wrestlers (sculpture), right of back wall

Squatting Egyptian figure (18th Dynasty), middle of room (sculpture) That is Hatshepsut. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senemut and I know of people who know people who know what is going on there, don't I?

Right

Reni, Cleopatra, top left of right wall

Raphael, Pope Leo X with Cardinals Giulio de' Medici and Luigi de' Rossi, top right of right wall Toward the end of his brother's biography, Georgio Vasari says that Guilio Romano covered up the faces of Pope Leo's portrait himself. I do not think I can convince the Uffizi to remove the cover up paint. Tho' I know of some Living Masters who could transfer it to canvas so nobody would know the difference and science could work with the origional.

Rubens, Justus Lipsius with his Pupils, middle of right wall Like I said in a paragraph above, I am just typing, I am not looking through my database trying to "identify this picture." The men of Rubens' picture, including Rubens himself, were of the generations who carried her story and techniques onward.

Pietro da Cortona, Abraham and Hagar, left of right wall

School of Caravaggio, Tribute Money, middle of right wall Caravaggio is not one of my favorites but he did study in Rome under Raphael and started a new school of painting. (Almost black and white.)

Cristofano Allori, Miracle of St Julian, right of right wall Medici Venus, far right (sculpture)

'Titian, Venus of Urbino, front right, resting on an ancient cinerary urn Titian is not a friend of Raphael. But, like his friend Michelangelo says, "Tiziano Vecellio's pictures lack design." What I expect the book to say is Raphael and Michelangelo were commercial artists and the both of them knew how to play the game just like the tabloids of today.

'Workshop of Guercino, Sibyl, bottom middle floor Another Sibyl with a book. I think the Sibylline Oracles were just herstory books. To a woman history is cyclical. To a man history is linear; cause and effect, beginning to end. Add us together and ourstory is a multidimensional wave with peaks and troughs traveling through time. I think world wide consumers want to maximize the highs and minimize the lows. U can call me a socialist if u like.

Writing in this forum is like shooting in the dark. I know I am repeating myself, but I can't even go back and see what I have written before. A WGA forum could be most productive. My muse is right but our attributions need work.

Bill Sovereign (talk) 14:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]