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I have tagged the lead section as needing clean-up. It has multiple issues, being both too long, consisting of 5 paragraphs, and having extra information that is not part of the body of the article. See MOS:LEAD and MOS:LEADLENGTH. The lead section should summarize the body of an article and provide an accessible overview or brief outline of an article. It should not contain the bulk of the details of an article that are not mentioned elsewhere in the body of the article below the table of contents. The size of the lead should be proportional to an article size, which can be determined by its Readable Prose Size, which excludes the lead section and also any headings, boxes, tables or lists that are not in full sentences in the body of the article. In an article like this, the lead section should be limited to about 10% of the article; say perhaps 50 to 100 words. it means that the lead section should be only one or perhaps two paragraphs long, not five, and ALL the information in the lead ought to be expanded upon in the body of the article below the table of contents. One purpose of the lead is to orient the reader and sufficiently inform them to decide if they want to read the whole article, or not. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 06:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tpbradbury: Simply chopping out text from the lead, as was done in this edit, does not address the fundamental problem with the lead section - that it contains extra information that is not in the body of the article. The purpose of the lead section is to provide an accessible overview to an article. If you want to write a better article then the lead should follow the body of the article. That means the information in the lead needs to also appear in the body of the article, probably in more detail. If you ripped the lead section off the article, does it still make sense? If the answer is no, then the lead section contains information that needs to be included in the body of the article. While this might seem repetitious, it is the way the Manual of Style says to write an article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 21:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
remove the info not in the body of the article or add it to the article? Tom B (talk) 08:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any information in the lead section of the article also needs to appear in the body of the article below the table of contents and the first heading. The lead section is a summary of the article, so one way to do this is to write a brief summary of the lead section that answers the questions "Who are they?", "What are their purpose?", "Where are they?", "When were they in existence?" and "Why do they exist?". This should result in a really basic lead sentence, or two, of perhaps 15 to 50 words that is a starter for the lead. The rest of the facts in the lead can then be included in the article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 14:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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